#102 Reducing Goal Complexity & Increasing Output Dramatically

Welcome to Episode 102 of The Focus Cast! 🎙️ Join us for an inspiring journey as we explore a groundbreaking approach to setting goals that encompasses the mind, body, and soul.

In the realm of the mind, we delve into the power of presence and the art of observing without judgment. Learn how these mindfulness practices can reshape your approach to goal-setting, fostering a mindset of growth and self-discovery.

Moving to the body, we uncover the importance of balancing serotonin levels and activating the parasympathetic nervous system. Discover practical strategies to enhance your overall well-being, providing a solid foundation for achieving your physical goals.

The soul takes center stage as we explore the realms of curiosity and creativity. Embrace these elements to infuse your goals with passion and purpose, creating a deeper connection to your life's work

Measuring success takes on a unique perspective in this episode—embrace pain and self-grace. Explore the transformative power of acknowledging challenges while extending compassion to yourself along the way.

And remember, in the pursuit of your goals, there is no finish line. This is life's work. Join us as we discuss the ever-evolving nature of personal growth and achievement.

But that's not all! We share insights into our own physical goals, discussing the additions to our routines that are propelling us toward success.

As a special treat, we draw parallels to the legendary Mongolian horses and warriors, exploring how their battle strategies hold relevance in today's pursuit of personal excellence.

Tune in to Episode 102 for a dynamic conversation that will inspire you to redefine your approach to goals and embark on a journey of lifelong fulfillment. 🌟 #TheFocusCast #GoalSetting #MindBodySoul

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Reframe Goals for Increased Presence

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome to the Focus Cast, episode 102. Today we're talking about some goals, that's right. Some physicality, physicality, let's get physical. Hmm, and what was?

Speaker 2 0:12

the other thing we're going to surprise ourselves by talking a little bit about the Mongolian warriors and horses and how we can relate that to Susie in a meeting.

Speaker 1 0:24

Nice, very nice. I like that.

Speaker 2 0:27

It's going to be a fun day today, so let's hop in. Yeah, sweet, what's your name?

Speaker 1 0:34

Jonathan Noel.

Speaker 2 0:35

And I'm Brian Noel.

Speaker 1 0:36

This is the Focus Cast.

Speaker 2 0:37

Where we help reduce distractions, increase focus, so we can live our life with intentions. That's right Understanding free will.

Speaker 1 0:48

It changes things, huh yeah.

Speaker 2 0:50

You can live whatever life that you want, and I'm not judging. Yeah, we're going to talk a little bit about judgment today.

Speaker 2 0:58

We're going to start talking about goals. There we go. So here's how this came up, bro. All right, I was on, I had a post for Instagram, ok, and for some reason last night I was just thinking there was a football game on and I was listening to a book. So I have the football game on on zero Because I'm not as interested in the football game but I like to watch it. But I can't just watch it. I have to do something else. So I'm listening to a book. It's a really good book by Stanislaw Groff, psychiatrist from the 60s, 70s and 80s. But anyway, that's another story and I was just thinking about man. As my perspective has changed, my mind has changed my body is changing all these things are changing.

Speaker 2 1:49

I was like my goals have really changed my framework and how I set goals is changing, and that makes sense.

Speaker 1 1:59

As your viewpoint expands, you kind of have a different idea of where you'll want to go.

Speaker 2 2:05

Yeah, so you know me. I've been a goal-oriented human being for a long time.

Speaker 1 2:13

I remember I saw your book. I must have been in my early 20s and you showed me your book with the five-year plan. This was so alien to me. The thought of having a multi-year written out. It wasn't just, by the way, for the listeners, it wasn't just a page that said in five years I want this. I mean, it was a book full of the steps to get there and one-year plan too. Yada, yada. I was like holy shit bro.

Speaker 2 2:40

While some people had a black book of hookups, I had a black book of businesses and ideas and strategies.

Speaker 1 2:48

Because I was already married.

Speaker 2 2:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's funny. I think I was either most memorable or most likely to succeed. It must have been most memorable that I was voted in high school. Really, you got one of those.

Speaker 1 3:03

Yeah, damn, look at you.

Speaker 2 3:05

That's awesome. I think it was the trench coats and the spray painted combat boots that I got from the Army surplus store.

Speaker 1 3:12

Most likely it ended up on the news award. Oh, I remember that guy.

Speaker 2 3:18

So, anyway, I've had a lot of goals and I've always had. We've talked about this a lot now. So for me I lived in the future Right, disassociation, right. So I lived in the future but I had low level anxiety that I wasn't doing enough in the present. So it's natural for someone like that in that state to constantly have written down very well executed visions of the future Right.

Speaker 1 3:46

That was how I could somewhat control we fit this before. Live in the future cause anxiety, live in the past usually causes depression, and so you dealt with your anxiety by having a very detailed thought out plan.

Speaker 2 4:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and a lot of those things didn't work.

Speaker 1 4:08

It was never really about them working. It was something to make you feel OK.

Speaker 2 4:12

Yes, that's exactly right. I just needed to feel safe. Exactly, I felt safe. What was to have a plan?

Speaker 1 4:17

What was to have a five year plan.

Speaker 2 4:18

And it naturally evolved. Yeah, of course Because it never was the today plan. Yeah, it was always the future plan yeah.

Speaker 1 4:28

I just everything's going to change. So much Is there. Can you actually dream of something and it be the exact same as you thought of it in five years from now? I mean maybe a few people.

Speaker 2 4:39

Without deviation, I don't know. I mean, maybe we can ask Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 4:43

Yeah, maybe he Maybe.

Speaker 2 4:45

He saw it, but I would assume he would agree that the path to get there has definitely been a little rocky, rocky, rock get Anyway. So that's a great segue, bro. So that's what my goals used to look like, right, even for this podcast.

Speaker 1 5:05

A slightly manic, borderline, obsessive way to feel safe and ride it all out.

Speaker 2 5:13

Yeah, and that's what you needed, that's totally fine, that's what I needed, and what's crazy about that is, in the business community, anyone who bumped into me respected that. They were like, damn, you got a great plan. You're going to make it. But they didn't realize, and I didn't realize, that that plan was just based on needing safety because of my anxiety. So before we compliment someone's great plans, roast them first.

Speaker 1 5:40

I'm just kidding, I'm totally kidding. Ask them if they're OK. That's what you should do.

Speaker 2 5:45

Man, I really like this plan.

Speaker 1 5:47

Are you all right? Are you OK? How have you been feeling lately? What?

Speaker 2 5:49

if it doesn't work, it's going to work. So this is how I am deciding to approach goal setting in the future. Ok, all right. So this is what I wrote on my Instagram, that's what I'm reading, that's what I'm holding my phone right now. So I said, though the work is hard, the goals have reduced in complexity. I've got to have some nice little statement to set it up. Oh, of course. Anyway, so the goal for the mind, my goal for the mind, is to work on and increase presence and observation without judgment.

Speaker 1 6:36

Yeah, you want to be present in this thing called love? Yeah, or you can have love for people without judging them. Yeah, that's new for me.

Speaker 2 6:46

Yeah, so New for myself too, oh, absolutely. Observation of self and observation of the world without judgment, just observing.

Speaker 1 6:55

The amount of compassion you can have for others is usually an indicator for how much you have for yourself. Boom, just saying, it's hard to have it for others if you don't have it for yourself. Damn right, bro. So it's kind of a borrower, a barometer. So if you can cultivate and start to love yourself, and typically that goes to the people around you, because you can empathize with what's going on in their life. Yeah, man, that's good.

Speaker 2 7:22

I think that's a Buddhist meditation principle the observation without judgment. So I was listening to this book and this is all new to me.

Speaker 1 7:33

Right.

Speaker 2 7:33

So someone might be like that wasn't Buddhist, that was this, and that's fine, because I've read a lot of books. Now I'm just pulling principles I don't know where from, but I'm not judging, that's what I'm not doing Anyway. But they talked about it and they said step one is to be able to in meditation and the levels of meditation. Step one is to you have these judgments come up and these emotions are attached to judgments and first just observe them, like, just like, oh man, you're really frustrated or whatever. Just observe it, and then you start progressing into this phase where you can observe it without judging it.

Speaker 1 8:18

Right, you're angry. You shouldn't be angry.

Speaker 2 8:20

No no.

Speaker 1 8:22

You're angry. This is just the thing that's happening. It doesn't define me. It's not who I am, yeah, just look at it. I am not an angry person. I'm a being experiencing anger.

Speaker 2 8:33

Yes, at the moment. At the moment, and then, when you're not judging it, you have the opportunity to actually observe it and see where it's coming from, which then helps you process it and go below it, because you're not stuck in the minutia.

Speaker 1 8:52

Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:53

You're not stuck in the emotion of it.

Speaker 1 8:54

Right.

Speaker 2 8:56

I remember one time my wife and I were a little aggravated at each other. Quick caveat before I tell this story. So you know they talk about the honeymoon phase For people. It's beautiful for the first three years and five years and then it just kind of gets worse and worse and worse. That's how some people describe marriage. My wife and I our marriage has been the opposite. We hated each other for the first three to five years and then now we love each other more than ever. That's wonderful. So it went backwards.

Speaker 1 9:26

That's better.

Speaker 2 9:27

What I realized is marriage is a mirror, and I hated myself, but anyway, there was one time that she Made me mad, or, if I say it correctly, she was a mirror in which Boiled up some anger that I had for myself from my past, yeah and I remember I punched a hole in the wall and then turn around and Roundhouse kick the fridge.

Speaker 1 9:50

I Saw it in my head as you described it, because it was that little apartment. Yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 10:00

Yeah, yeah so, but what was so great about the whole experience was the second I did that. I was like I feel better, but now I got to fix this hole.

Speaker 1 10:10

I mean, it was a release. Yeah, so anyway and you got to get out of the house. Go to home depot and buy some.

Speaker 2 10:17

Yeah, that patch. I was not good at patchwork. You could see that spot for a long time.

Speaker 1 10:23

So yeah.

Speaker 2 10:25

That's mind presence plus observation without judgment, mm-hmm. Those are the two goals. Be present, observe without judgment, mm-hmm, the body goal. You ready for this?

Speaker 1 10:38

Yes.

Speaker 2 10:38

This is really coming from two years of talking about focus in the body from our podcast. Yeah, but serotonin balance, which we? I read a book called Hacking of the American mind that talks about the dopamine addiction. Yeah and how we were all addicted to cheap highs, mm-hmm, the dopamine has for a stimulation, the nonstop, yes, stimulation which offsets our serotonin. Yeah, and and again. There's a lot more science and details to that. So if anyone is in that space, yeah, check out Huberman lab.

Speaker 2 11:10

We're not yeah, yeah, this is obviously a this is yeah, it's my goal general goal but dopamine detox and Serotonin reset. That's the goal this year. Nice, through the food I eat, the toxins I do not.

Speaker 1 11:24

That's pretty specific, yeah, but a diet exercise overhaul is gonna do like a full hormone reset for you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 11:32

Yeah.

Speaker 1 11:33

And then you can be like those enlightened yogis who just sit there and look like they're stoned all the time.

Speaker 2 11:40

I have to stop getting stoned. To get stoned there's there's different levels of being stoned on. And then the next is a parasympathetic nervous system. Balance, fear and all that stuff really strikes the sympathetic nervous system. Fight or flight triggers that amygdala, makes it fat and honey. And then you're just living in a fear, fight, flight or fawn state. Yes and but. The parasympathetic nerve is sleep and peace and healing and healing and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 12:12

Your body can take care of its functions and Some people say that the parasympathetic nervous system is how we access the greater power interesting?

Speaker 1 12:23

Yeah, it definitely is easier to think and Articulate and work through things. Yeah, not in fight or flight. Yeah, if you can engage the parasympathetic nerve or that whole system, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 12:38

it's a different experience, I even read somewhere and I looked it up, in the first 10 articles, some of those being like Med journals. So, based on my very quick pass through of this, that you can't have fear and Creativity, or fear and curiosity at the same time. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's two different parts of the brain. So when fear is at, all time high.

Speaker 1 13:06

I just know when I, if my amygdala is engaged and that fear state is there. I'm not thinking about a cool guitar chord progression. Are creative things. Yeah, it's just not even yeah, a consideration at that point, it's yeah.

Speaker 2 13:24

So how sad is it that people in their relaxed state use their creativity to create things that cause fear, so other people can't access their creativity. That's kind of tragic.

Speaker 1 13:36

It almost seems like if you were doing it from purpose. Yeah, be to keep people in a.

Speaker 2 13:42

In a fear state Wow, what dicks. Oh yeah, that's right, we're supposed to cuss less this year. Sorry, mom, Listen episode 101 for that if you want the background. So, yes, that's the body goal. So again, not like I want to weigh this much, I want to lift this much, I want to you know. No, no crazy data, no, nothing. I just want to learn about the serotonin and the parasympathetic nerve, seraparasempathetic nervous system, and I want to learn more about it and I want to do things in my life that balance those out.

Speaker 1 14:12

That's right, because that's basically where meditation starts. Yeah, a little bit of breath, breath work to disengage the amygdala, activate the parasympathetic, so you can actually sit there instead of thinking about the world ending. Yeah, you can be relaxed and that's pretty much where it starts. That's like the baseline, man.

Speaker 2 14:33

Yeah well, I do have something to talk about later in the episode, and I think I hit my first baseline of meditation. Oh, and I'm gonna talk about the products that I purchased that helped me get there. Listen, for those of you who struggle with meditation, you might want to try this. I'll talk about that later. All right, all right, so that's mind, body and soul. Okay, so soul is Just curiosity and creativity.

Speaker 1 15:00

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 15:01

That's my goals. How do I measure that? I'll talk about metrics in a minute, but that's where I'm focused for my soul. I like them curious. I'm just gonna keep reading I've read a lot of books in the past month and a half and just keep being creative. Yeah, but creative without expectations, right? Like? I gotta create a post For Instagram that gets enough views for us to get a sponsor.

Speaker 1 15:26

Nope, nope sounds terrible, that sounds like torture, yeah, that sounds like Not.

Speaker 2 15:32

That sounds like the sympathetic nervous system. So just be creative. We made some music. We're gonna throw that music out in the world and see what happens.

Speaker 1 15:43

Worst-case scenario. We get to listen to it on Spotify, and that's way easier than going to Google Drive, because their interface is horrible. Yeah, and using Google Drive is terrible in general and it makes me not like Google. Yeah, actually I didn't really like them anyway, because they steal all our data, but yeah and record everything, and they're basically an extension of the NSA, but that's a whole nother thing. So, anyway, what's next bro?

Speaker 2 16:11

and one opportunity. Even we get to enjoy it. But I will say I'll have a little bit of a self pride moment, mm-hmm, when I get to send a Spotify playlist of music that we wrote to my friends. Yeah, that's gonna be cool. I've never done that before. It's gonna be a new one. Yeah, I'm pretty excited. So that's my body. So how am I going to measure progress? What are my milestones? Right, yeah, you ready, I'm ready. Embrace pain plus self grace. So what does that mean for me? So, in brace pain mentally, as I work through some trauma, this past year there's been some pain involved, some uncomfortable times, yep.

Speaker 1 17:03

That's working through trauma tends to do that.

Speaker 2 17:06

Yeah, so this year I shared on the last podcast podcast last episode. I will be continuing to embrace pain in the mental, in the mind, but also adding embracing pain in the body right.

Speaker 1 17:20

We're adding physical goals into this year because we've never had really true physical goals.

Speaker 2 17:25

Yeah.

Speaker 1 17:27

I've never done it either. Yeah, we talked about that in the whole last episode.

Speaker 2 17:30

Yeah, so and then self-crace. So when I don't want to experience pain and I just want to take a break and I just want to relax and eat a ham sandwich and watch football, I'm gonna do that. Hmm, and I'm not gonna sit there and go. Well, you could be doing this. You could be working on your cell strategy, you could be playing for the next podcast. You give it a lot of blah, blah, blah blah. I'm not gonna do that. I'm just gonna sit there and enjoy my ham sandwich and watch football game.

Speaker 1 17:55

Yeah, so you're not taking the David Goggins approach. I'm just kidding no.

Speaker 2 18:02

I'm not.

Speaker 1 18:04

That thing, that's totally fine. You have to be. I mean, honestly, that's the self-care piece too a little bit and self-compassion. I don't think he races every day. No, His off days are like just a quick seven mile run.

Speaker 2 18:18

Yeah, I mean that's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 18:22

But the point is, is some of the trauma stuff like pulling that up and dealing with it? Sometimes you just need some comfort. It's that simple. It's not only work. Yeah, so, yeah, so. Sometimes you just want a ham sandwich at two in the morning and yeah.

Speaker 2 18:41

Watch something Some chocolate. So I saw a graph that I thought was pretty cool on the Insta and this guy was like it fills up and down linearly, but really it's up and down with an upward projection. If you keep doing the work, like for us, it's just like a stock.

Speaker 1 19:05

It's just like a stock, that's yeah, over our past 30 years that overall trend. The 200 day moving average is up, yeah, but that doesn't mean it goes up every day, no, it might have a couple of five to 8% swings.

Goals, Growth, and Physical Challenges

Speaker 2 19:18

Yeah, Occasionally, a 20% swing Occasionally, but that's an up and down swing too, yeah. So, but collectively, average we going up, bro, exactly we going up. Yeah, it's not a straight line, nope, all right, you know what my finish line goal is? What's that? It's blank. Ooh, mysterious. Yeah, that was so intentional.

Speaker 1 19:45

To be continued. There is no finish line. All right, it's a state of mind. Yeah Right, growth, growth is the point.

Speaker 2 19:54

Yeah.

Speaker 1 19:55

If you're trying to grow, is there a whatever, a finish line?

Speaker 2 19:58

No, there'll be little mini finish lines along the way when we make it across the line of that 365 mile race that we're doing in August. When we when I did a cold shower this morning it was probably the coldest shower of the year and I did it that was a little mini finish line. Yeah, totally, I finished my ass right out of that shower. Yeah, that was fun you were up.

Speaker 1 20:18

You had to wake up at two in the morning for something.

Speaker 2 20:20

Yeah.

Speaker 1 20:20

You didn't get much sleep. Yeah, taking the cold shower is one thing when you feel great, but when you're tired and it's like super early, it makes it really hard to hop in that water. You just really ask yourself am I stupid or just like? What is the point of this?

Speaker 2 20:36

A long hot shower this morning. I was just like what do you want? I was like I want a long hot shower and my wife got a little speaker that goes in the shower and at first I was kind of like making fun of her for it. And then I turned on some music while I was in the shower and I was like this is the greatest thing I've ever had in my life.

Speaker 2 20:55

You remember the rich mansions from the TV shows from the 80s and 90s when they had a phone in the shower. I got the cord corded phone in the shower, because it yeah apparently the guy was so busy and take a phone call in the shower.

Speaker 1 21:07

Why would anyone agree to that?

Speaker 2 21:09

I don't know. He probably used it more for phone sex than he did for business calls.

Speaker 1 21:13

Let's be honest, I'm in the shower. Yeah, I know I can barely hear you. All right, so that's yeah, goals, man.

Speaker 2 21:21

That's how my goals have changed from the past, however long to now. It feels better already. I like that. I feel less stressed.

Speaker 1 21:29

That's wonderful. Yeah, I like that. You know I've never had goals. I don't know if we wanted to talk about that.

Speaker 2 21:38

How do you live? That's so foreign to me.

Speaker 1 21:42

I've never really had goals. I have a like here and there.

Speaker 2 21:48

What's an example? Hello to you 34. Hello, what's an example of a 34 year olds here and there? Goal.

Speaker 1 21:56

Well, when I wanted to get the 107 part 107 drone license, oh yeah, I was like I want to do this, I'm going to study for the test, and I did and it was fine, nice. So it was a little mini goal.

Speaker 2 22:10

I like that. I've never had big goals. Yeah, do you have goals now?

Speaker 1 22:15

Not really. No, it's not necessarily for me. I think it's more the mindset, the growth Embracing that daily, and then the things just kind of happen If you feel like you want something and you just do it. Sure, I don't know, this may be something that needs a change, but we're doing the physical goal, like our 357 mile bike ride.

Speaker 2 22:46

That's the biggest goal physically I've ever had in my life Same. Yeah.

Speaker 1 22:52

So I think everything's it's kind of volatile when you start like wanting to just grow and evolve, yeah, that it's like. Now I have even less of a reason to that's true. Yeah, two set goals no, I don't know.

Speaker 2 23:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1 23:13

We need some on a psychiatrist or something. What is it? What is it Psychologist? Psychologist or someone to help flush it out, or a psychiatrist? What does that mean? That I don't that I never set goals.

Speaker 2 23:23

Well, it's funny because, because I don't want to fail yeah. Maybe, if you don't set them, you don't fail. Yeah, that might be the case for some people, for sure.

Speaker 1 23:32

Yeah, that's probably. Preemptively strike a failure. Yeah, yeah, if you don't set them, you can't fail. You can't fail something you never tried. Yeah, that's true. That's probably yeah, so it's probably mostly that, yeah.

Speaker 2 23:47

But I was talking to a business friend the other day and he said man, where are you at? And I said, well, honestly, I've got a physical goal this year, but business wise I just don't care, like, as long as I can be curious and creative. I mean I'm gonna do stuff and I'm gonna work and I'm gonna see things through. But for the first time I just don't care if they work or not. I wanna provide for my family. Obviously I like to be able to buy things when I want them. Who doesn't?

Speaker 1 24:27

But outside of that, whatever, yeah and not having goals doesn't mean I'm not doing anything either. Obviously True, it's not.

Speaker 2 24:38

Hey, you posted that picture on your Instagram. Physically, you've been doing some things in the last five or seven years. Yeah, that has been a lot.

Speaker 1 24:47

The now and then. The now and then.

Speaker 2 24:49

They're then and now Go check out. Was it John Z Lenine? John Z Lenine?

Speaker 1 24:53

About your Insta. Well, that was just a story, so I should post it on my timeline.

Speaker 2 24:57

It's pretty great, anyway, all right, so physical. Now, that's the goals setting, that's how they've changed over two years and some of the craziness that the new, the new arrival, the new conclusions based on all the work that we've been doing mentally and for me personally, yeah, the broader viewpoint yeah, so Achieved.

Speaker 2 25:24

Now physical. So we wanted to ride 30 miles. The other day it was pouring down rain, all the trails were closed, so we said, well, we'll just go hike for five hours, because that's how much time we had, and we filled our bags. I need my wife's dumbbell bag, by the way. Is that in the truck? Yes sweet she's like. Now I'm gonna have to work out with 15 pound weights she did.

Speaker 2 25:48

Nice, I helped, yeah, you did, but so we put a bunch of weight in our bags anywhere between 20 and 30 pounds, and we just walked for five hours.

Speaker 1 26:00

Yeah, and you know what I thought for some people? They're gonna be like okay, that's a nice warm up, yeah, that's cute. And that's fine and it's not like it destroyed me, but at the same time I was really tired. Afterwards I don't know if it's because we were, it was 45 degrees and it was raining, so it was like as soon as you stopped moving, you were realized how cold and wet it was.

Speaker 1 26:23

So I don't know if I was burning more energy to stay warm or something, but I felt like it took more energy than it should have because I've done 14 mile hikes and I was tired, but this like sucked it out of me In a different kind of way. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 26:40

Yeah, it was pouring rain for the first two to two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 26:44

And it was 45 degrees.

Speaker 2 26:45

Yeah, it was chilly and we had to move to stay warm.

Speaker 1 26:48

Yeah, as soon as we stopped for a snack and some water I remember five minutes I'm like, yeah, let's keep going. This is like not moving sucks more than moving.

Speaker 2 26:59

But it felt great. For me that's the first time I did extended exercise in the rain, and back to just the just how good it felt in all of me. Yeah, like it felt so good to be out in the rain in the woods just moving.

Speaker 1 27:23

Yep, absolutely. I don't know why. There's lots of reasons.

Speaker 2 27:30

Because of movement, because of being in nature.

Speaker 1 27:31

Yeah, yeah, the acid rain, the acid rain helps. Yeah, being in nature is healing.

Speaker 2 27:42

Yeah, big time. So, oh, you wanna hear something crazy? Yeah, what's?

Speaker 1 27:46

that Saw the other day.

Speaker 2 27:47

What's that? That we actually could get enough energy that we needed to sustain ourselves from grounding in the trees? Whoa, we could reduce our food intake significantly and be completely actually more nourished if we spent more time in the woods. I don't know if that's true or not. I don't know if it's science-backed. I just saw the video. Sounds like some.

Speaker 1 28:11

TikTok, I'll just get it. There's a thing called breath arian. Yeah, people who basically don't eat, they just drink water. Breath arian. Yeah breath arian, breath arian. Of course, for some people listening it'd be like that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

Exploring Physical Fitness Goals

Speaker 1 28:28

I just wanna meet someone who is a breath arian, but I mean, I listened to a podcast and the woman she wasn't trying to sell it, she was basically like I don't think most people should ever do this. It's for very select few. So it's not. There's no Ponzi scheme here. There's no money in it. It's really hard to sell.

Speaker 2 28:47

She's not really looking.

Speaker 1 28:48

Don't consume, she's not really looking for too much attention it seems like but, yeah. Basically, you're whatever spiritually evolved enough to where you don't have to eat anymore. That's crazy, because you get enough energy from the sun and breathing and water. Wow. So I don't know if she's doing like Ironman competitions and what are those things called Like the war.

Speaker 2 29:16

Spartans, spartans, yeah, zombie and triathlons.

Speaker 1 29:20

I don't know if you can do triathlons and just live off of breathing, but you know, I don't know. Check it out, whatever, yeah.

Speaker 2 29:29

Thanks very much. Uh, I hired a personal trainer, mm. Hmm, so two days a week I'm doing more weights and learning new stretches and doing some of that work to offset being on the bike so much and only working the same muscles on the bike, yeah, so, um, I know that my back typically starts hurting first when we do those long rides with a lot of rocks.

Speaker 1 29:58

Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2 29:59

And so I got a strength in the core and other parts of the body, yep, so I started that and I just did a quick 30 minute meet the trainer session.

Speaker 1 30:10

Yeah, last week Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 30:13

Um, and he was just showing me a couple of things and I couldn't walk for three days barely. I was pinging and around. That's awesome, so that's a good sign. Yeah, and that was my legs too.

Speaker 1 30:22

Yeah, my legs are strong. You thought you were, yeah, strong in some ways.

Speaker 2 30:27

Yeah.

Speaker 1 30:28

So that's how I that's me. And martial arts yeah, like my legs are strong in certain ways. Mountain biking yeah, you get into some of these stances and you're like you know, you start doing that chicken shade here. They start shaking, wobbling real quick. You look, how could I do this?

Speaker 2 30:46

I wonder if that's how that song, the wobble, was written. Dude just did a really hard workout Do. How does the wobble song go.

Speaker 1 30:52

I forgot, oh, is that while? While Wobble me wobble me, wobble me, wobble me, wobble. But um, the point is, yes, it's not just going to be cycling, because we want a more well rounded physical, like just being more physically adept all around. Yeah, so that doesn't mean only biking.

Speaker 2 31:13

Well, the trainer said to like doing just traditional leg exercises like squats and all that kind of stuff. The the stronger your muscles are, the less they use the tenants, the tendons, the tendons. And that's great, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 31:29

Then in mind hopefully my knee will stop. Yeah, Making that interesting feeling.

Speaker 2 31:35

So we're just going to, just going to keep it going. So that's added that to the routine. Nice, um, maintaining our cold plunges. My wife got me one of those portable cold plunges. Yeah, we should have it really used in the summer, because I don't want to buy ice all the time, yeah, and I don't have a cold pump. But I tell you what, man, what is 20 or 30 degrees outside and I just feel that Joker up the night before and let it sit all night and jump in there in the morning.

Speaker 2 31:58

That's hardcore. That stuff's cold. I bet I'm just in the backyard playing side of the neighbors.

Speaker 1 32:04

Yeah, out there, yeah, feeling like um, just that wild man with that white chest and all that hair. They look out there and they're like what is that thing?

Speaker 2 32:14

Yeah, what is?

Speaker 1 32:15

that? What the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 32:17

Why is he getting into a small little bath in the bed? How redneck is that? I got a little bath, little circle bath, in the backyard.

Speaker 1 32:24

Like showers broken. Is that there washing my hair? Um, no, it's great, yeah, it's great. Uh, I want to be able to do physically First off. I want to be able to do things. Yeah, for a long time. Yeah, you know, still active in the 80s 90s you know, basically till I die, and then able to do some of these, these things, that felt I won't say impossible, but that just felt like how can people do that?

Speaker 1 32:51

Yeah, like five years ago like how do you run, how do you do a try at the one Cause?

Speaker 2 32:55

I'm not a great swimmer, yeah.

Speaker 1 32:57

So things that felt overwhelming, yeah. But I reached that point where it's like, oh, I can do that. Yeah, I'm not saying that can be easy, but I can do it. Yeah, being reaching that point where you can kind of just tackle physically most things, I got a good story there, bro.

Speaker 2 33:14

What's that? I was at this event this past weekend and these two military dudes were there.

Speaker 1 33:19

Yeah.

Speaker 2 33:20

I know they were military because when I'm had United States Marine Corps tattooed, yeah, that usually is an indicator.

Speaker 1 33:27

Yeah, you don't do that unless you don't, or else you're going to get called out, yep.

Speaker 2 33:32

Yeah, um, and one of the guys was like like you know those? You know those, uh Instagram photos of, like these men coming out of the water? Yeah, and you look at them and you're just like, damn that man, what a man, sure.

Speaker 1 33:49

Yeah.

Speaker 2 33:50

That happens to me.

Speaker 1 33:50

sometimes I'm just like yeah, like well, what a beefcake.

Speaker 2 33:53

Yeah, yeah. Like I tell you it's always sunny.

Speaker 1 33:56

I had so many sunny fans, uh yeah.

Speaker 2 33:59

I tell people I love men because I want to be one one day. So anyway, this guy was a man's man, um, super nice guy, uh, anyway. So we had a break and I was just talking, they were talking to each other and just kind of interjected myself and I was like you know, what do you guys do physically? And they both like I'm talking, millisecond response, no thinking at all, and they just said everything and I was just like that's badass.

Speaker 1 34:26

It's badass because it's you want to reach that point where you're versatile.

Speaker 2 34:30

Yeah, everything they said run, bike, climb all these races, swim, they do it all. That's great, non-stop.

Speaker 1 34:41

So I'm into it. Yeah, that's what I want to be, me too. To where you know, for me it's core. My core is weak and I can't sit down and knock out a hundred pushups in a row, if I'm being just totally honest right now it's. I'm not there yet.

Speaker 2 34:56

Yeah.

Speaker 1 34:57

So get some of that good old fashioned PT and pull ups these dudes who just hop up the bar and do like 20 pull ups, like it's nothing. Oh my gosh, I mean, and I weigh less now than I have since, like you know, high school. Wait, I weigh the same now as. I did back then. I gained weight and I lost it, but pull ups are still like, so Definitely got some areas to work on the legs are pretty strong. The core is definitely.

Speaker 1 35:27

I've been avoiding core forever yeah, yeah, Because it's notoriously the the lamest, not lamest. I just, it sucks.

Speaker 2 35:37

Yeah, let's be real, let's be real.

Speaker 1 35:38

So I've been avoiding it. So, yeah, core upper, body.

Mongolian Horses and Warfare Strategies

Speaker 2 35:42

Nice, yeah, um, all right, last thing you ready? Okay, the Mongolian horse. Okay, so I've been reading, and I've allowed into my consumption stories of because I've been reading a lot of history, more like history of consciousness, history of religion, um, uh, just the history and philosophy like the evolution of mankind and war and all that kind of stuff. So, um, see, in the development of war and how people do things and that kind of stuff, it's kind of kind of interesting. So I started reading about the Mongolians, the Mongolian war and the Mongolian horses, and I think we're going to do a little deep dive on this in the future because it's really fascinated by it. But I just got a couple of quick, awesome things that I read the other day.

Speaker 2 36:34

Okay, Thing one have you heard of the Mongolian horse?

Speaker 1 36:38

No.

Speaker 2 36:39

Well, I've heard of Mongolian beef. I wonder if that's made of horses, just kidding Beef? Um, so they could travel 60 to 100 miles a day, these warriors. Okay, one thing that I've learned about working with businesses and founders for a long time is founders tend to businesses tend to um. Fear of confrontation, um, prohibits them from firing bad employees, right, and so bad employees stick around and their energy sucks and they're reducing efficiency and output. So the A players, or the good employees, have to make up for that, and they become overworked, yes, and then they burn out and quit yeah.

Speaker 1 37:26

I've I've had some experience with this, yeah. Yeah, the A player or the one fire and all the A player. I know just kidding. We work very hard in our family. I've had some experience being lazy and watching all the A players work hard.

Speaker 2 37:44

So, but one thing that I read about these warriors is they had, when they were going on these very focused whatever they would call them then for them battles whatever Campaign.

Speaker 2 37:57

Campaigns. Yeah, they would have four to six horses per person and they spent time with their horses because that's how they, you know, that's how they would hunt, that's how they would travel naturally. So they naturally were just great horsemen, but they would have several horses and they loved their horses and so then they knew how to not burn out their horses and so they strategically used these horses to be able to do that 60 to 100 miles in a day. Another thing I read that was pretty cool is their intake into becoming a warrior. So of course, me and my business brain I'm like one thing that business is really struggle with is hiring and onboarding.

Speaker 2 38:46

I've seen people go a month without even having a computer. They're just sitting there and they're getting paid. They're getting paid, yep, so. But anyway I'm kind of having I didn't serve. So a lot of this stuff is just interesting for me from an outside perspective.

Speaker 1 39:05

Yeah.

Speaker 2 39:05

I didn't have that experience in life, so it's pretty cool to you know, I can only read and kind of attach it to what I'm familiar with, yeah, which is business stuff. But last thing I'll say that I thought was really really cool is one of their strategies is they would go appear as if they were about to engage in battle, look scared, retreat. Well, their opposition would chase them, but they were just toying with them Sending up the trap, yes, they would let them, chase them.

Strategic Retreat

Speaker 2 39:44

They would go just fast enough to where they couldn't catch them, but fast enough to where they had to chase them for long enough, where they would tire out. And then they would circle them, shoot them with a bunch of arrows and then run in with the big dogs and, close proximity, just absolutely destroy them, massacre, yeah. And I love that idea because it's like we burn out never retreating, never retracting, never pruning. So the principle that I took from that even though it was very strategic on their behalf is sometimes we feel like we always have to look our best and present our best and appear as if we're in our best form as a business. Yeah, we've grown, we've done this, we're growing, we're growing, we're growing.

Speaker 1 40:35

You know, sometimes we might need to retreat, retract, prune To reposition To reposition or to spring a trap, spring a trap, so anyway.

Speaker 2 40:48

So you can slaughter the competition.

Speaker 1 40:49

You did right.

Speaker 2 40:54

That's all I got, bro. I think I'm done, all right, but.