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#105 Processing Without Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt
Welcome to The Focus Cast Episode 105, where we dive deep into the realms of self-discovery and personal growth. Join Jonathan and I to explore the transformative power of intentional inner work and the profound effects it can have on reshaping our inner narratives.
In this episode, Jonathan and I peel back the layers of our subconscious minds, uncovering the stories we've been telling ourselves and how they shape our realities. We discuss the liberating experience of rewriting these programs, shedding labels of inadequacy, and embracing a fresh perspective on life.
Venturing into the depths of emotional processing, we reflect on the frustration of untapped potential and the significance of living in alignment with our intuitive selves, especially in the entrepreneurial world. Our conversation delves into fear-based reactions and the importance of operating from a state of calm and curiosity.
As we wrap up, we celebrate the resilience and clarity that emerge from personal growth journeys, highlighting the universal human experiences of love, choice, and freedom. With humor and intentionality, we contemplate the symbols that unite us and the power of community in our pursuit of fulfillment.
Join us on The Focus Cast as we embark on a journey of introspection, empowerment, and endless possibilities for personal development. Tune in to craft a narrative of intentionality and fulfillment that resonates with anyone eager to expand their horizons.
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Good morning. Good morning, sir. This is episode 105.
Speaker 2:105,.
Speaker 1:I think yeah, it's February of 2024. We're going to hit just an interesting development in my the way in which I process new information. Okay.
Speaker 2:I like that Before we start. I'm Jonathan Noel and I'm Brian Noel.
Speaker 1:This is the Focus Cast, where we help you reduce distractions, increase focus so you can live a life with Intention, intention.
Speaker 2:Be intentional. Be intentional with your intentions. Yeah. What if you have unintentional intentions?
Speaker 1:That's our subconscious and I think that drives the majority of most people's life, pretty much yeah, so we'll just jump right in. Why not yeah? Because then we're meeting someone for lunch, okay. So okay, in articulating how I approach new information now versus, say, a year ago, and why that's significant, is because I've been intentional about learning how to. I don't even know how to articulate it, but just being more grounded.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But that's been the goal.
Speaker 2:A little context. You had this association for most of your life, most of my life, whatever.
Speaker 1:So I started. For some of our followers who listened to everything, you know this. But in quick summary, I started therapy just because I wanted to clear mine and I wanted to remember some of my childhood.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you had a big gap, or you didn't remember anything?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then that was typical therapy EMDR doing some stuff, breaking new territory, clearing trauma, peeling the onion Right, and then it got to the core Right and then it started getting crazy.
Speaker 2:Then you started looking at how you do everything differently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, then we'll use some different.
Speaker 2:The next phase of work starts, yeah.
Speaker 1:Different phrasing for different people in different belief systems. False self, true self. I broke past the default network. I broke past the ego. Access to the soul beyond just the mind, Whatever you want to say yeah, insert yeah.
Speaker 2:What I realized is most of everything is all talking about the same thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The same feeling.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, and if there's one thing that I have learned in all of this work, is that getting all flustered about you using the right term or the wrong term. I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, isn't that something?
Speaker 1:Isn't that great. Yeah, I mean, language is not an absolute. No, language is just the way in which we try to describe what the is going on in this world, all of us are feeling the same thing, just explaining it in different ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so, okay, cool. So here's the situation or here's the scenario. So the very specific work is reprogramming. We've talked about inter-narrative, we've talked about inter-critic, we've talked about the manager, the manager in the internal family systems and how the manager tells you what to do every day. We've talked about introspective work. So we've talked around this. But the past two and a half months, really since November, since I broke through the surface or got to some of the core, is reprogramming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so for me, some of the programs, some of the scripts I talked about this, I think, in episode 101, but you're cursed, you're a failure, all those kind of programs that are subconscious. I wasn't like a depressed, sad person that every time you talk to me I was just like, oh, I'm such a loser. It was more like I'm a very optimistic person but deep inside I didn't believe it, because it was a program run into my subconscious that I was cursed. So now it's reprogramming and what's interesting from the delineation between just pure cognitive therapy, behavioral therapy change your behavior and then you'll slowly Versus what I feel like I've been doing, which is radical, deep soul work. So I don't feel like I'm just working in the prefrontal cortex and the amygdala, the thinking brain or the process, and emotional brain.
Speaker 2:You moved on to. It feels like the whole package yeah.
Speaker 1:Now again, that just may be what it feels like. I don't know. I'm not saying that's wrong or whatever. I'm not picking a side here but that's what it feels like to me. It feels like moving out of the brain. So in reprogramming also the work to this concept of radical non-judgment which we talked about, so the negative programs and the negative judgment, self-judgment, definitely control a lot of our thinking energy as human beings?
Speaker 1:Yeah, most definitely so. What's been fun about the work is to start to pull apart the emotional response to the environment and then to be able to run a new program free from judgment. Here's an example. So in being an entrepreneur, there's ups, there's downs. There's just part of the course. And what's been really interesting is, in the past couple of months, as I've been kind of catapulted because of a session I did on November 11th. I've been kind of catapulted into this like intense introspective work to challenge my entire default network, which is everything I know to be true. My default network, yeah, does On Venus, you know, like just these things. Like default network is like you can drive and think about something else at the same time.
Speaker 1:You know, it's as simple as that, but it says Complex is like if you grew up where you had a mom who got stressed out every holiday because everything had to be perfect, but she made it not perfect because she was so stressed out and she yelled at every everyone your default network is. That's the way holidays go.
Speaker 2:Right, right. Yeah, that's just you. That's all you've seen. Yeah, that's what you know. It's a reprogram, yeah, that oh, holidays aren't perfection, doesn't make.
Speaker 1:Joy, yeah, and the purpose of holiday is joy, right, so letting go, so anyway. So so before you know, I've, I've. I've tried things as an entrepreneur my whole life, you know, since we had a recording studio and I was in middle school, so I'm familiar with things working and things not working. Yeah that's nothing new there. Yeah, nothing new there. So in the past the program that would run when I hit a roadblock or Something came up Would to. The program would run that I told you so yeah, your failure.
Speaker 2:This was never gonna work. Yeah and stuff for you thinking all that, yeah, the usual suspects.
Speaker 1:So this is the first time in the history of my life that I know of mm-hmm where, in navigating these Just typical things, when I was hit with information, the negative program didn't run at all.
Speaker 2:You just Kind of zoomed out and looked at it.
Speaker 1:It's pretty interesting. I what I could see was clear separation between the emotional response and the programs, the scripts Running to analyze the emotional response. So what I saw for the first time was a clear delineation and detachment from that the Emotional response to the situation, and then what program I was able to apply to the emotion in response to the external event, mm-hmm. So I didn't experience a flash of emotion and Then the script told me what it was. I got to literally experience the emotion and then, with my logical brain, ask myself I guess my subconscious, I don't really know, maybe I should talk to a psychiatrist or someone a neurologist, but my thinking brain got to literally Talk to the subconscious and say what program are we gonna run in response to this, to apply to this emotional response to the situation?
Speaker 2:Is that not?
Speaker 1:insane. That's pretty amazing. So then the thinking brain I was able to say it's okay to feel disappointed. Yeah, Completely free from judgment right.
Speaker 2:That's way different than feeling like a failure and everything you do is cursed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was literally able to say I feel disappointed. And it's okay to feel disappointed. Yeah, it's okay to be cautious or now a bit Curious or nervous about you know. Okay, cool. Well, what's next? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and instead of it's like well, if it's okay to feel that way, I have a family, I have kids. You know I want to, I want to provide for them. You know I want to do all these things as a man and as a as a human, but instead of that, like typical, like you know, you're not gonna be able to provide for your family.
Speaker 2:Your friend is gonna think you're a. You know all that stuff.
Speaker 1:For me, letting down my family was one of the core fears. Mm-hmm. I actually, in a therapy session, visualized sitting at the table, having to Tell my family that I'm a failure and them realizing it.
Speaker 2:You did that in a session.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that was like that's just what came up and and that produced one of the core fears.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I Think this one's pretty Common, yeah, cuz I have some too. Yeah you know it's like not wanting to fail Anyone that you care about. Yeah, of course, right, which, if you go to the bottom of that, I think that just ends that you don't want to fail the creator. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or you have a construed version of the creator and yeah, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:The point is it still sucks. Yeah when you feel like you failed, even if you didn't. Yeah, so that's a default. Whatever program script or Program script, whatever the hell you name, whatever name, it doesn't matter. Whatever you want to call it to work through, yeah we should start creating new words.
Speaker 1:What does that word mean? We just give it a meaning. But yeah, so it was actually, and all this is pretty recent for me, so it was. It's been really interesting to Actually be able to work through this in this way, you know, to be able to. It's almost like now that I've cause. Y'all have heard me say this before. Jonathan, you mentioned this before. So for me, in therapy, I'm not just going to therapy and about life. I prepare for what I want to get out of that session. This is the way I approach any any, whether it's a business mentor, whether it's my freaking CPA, You're squeezing as much out of it as you can. Absolutely Prepare for the meeting.
Speaker 2:Go in.
Speaker 1:Super intentional in the meeting focused and then process after the meeting Write notes afterwards yeah, and then we talk about it on here. Yeah, and it's like about it, it's like four therapy sessions in one. And then anything that comes up, I read books about it. Yeah, so I've been extremely intentional. So this the process for me, right? Yeah, and everyone's probably a little different, obviously, there's probably some commonalities, but the process for me so I've, I've, I've ran these reps of. Here's how my brain works.
Speaker 2:You're understanding the mechanism more? Yes, and when you and understanding the mechanism, you can thwart some of the default reactions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I can go through the process of quote therapy in my head on my own. Yeah, when something comes up, I don't. Now it's not like, oh my gosh, I have to call my therapist and we have to. She's got to work through this with me, right, I don't? You have tools? Yeah, I have tools, it's. I was able to sit down and say, well, first thing I was able to do, which now this is like the steps in receiving information you know, apply them to yourself if you want this. First, I was able to just say oh, I'm not going to logically start trying to analyze this, I'm just going to give it 24 hours and just facts, or facts? Let me emotionally respond to it personally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me just see what, instead of doing a reaction or email immediately? Exactly how could you possibly?
Speaker 1:Yeah, any of that.
Speaker 2:Why was this going on? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So first it's just like okay, noted. And. I didn't.
Speaker 1:You don't avoid either right, right, that's it doesn't text you for a week, so just reply and say, great, I'm going to think about this for a day and then we'll figure it out. So then, for me personally, that's given myself a day to not jump into decision making, you know a decision making stance, just to kind of allow myself and then feeling. What's been really cool is just feeling the emotions in the body and then the mind going okay, cool, what programmer we're going to use to analyze these emotions and then, instead of grabbing the old programs, which are just to apply a bunch of negativity to it, apply the new programs, which is okay, cool. What are you? What's the word attached to the feeling? What age do you feel, which I love it with my therapy? My therapist asked that question. I'm like I feel this and she's like what? How old are you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what age do you feel this? Yeah, I've never done that. It's wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you really think about it, then you'll go to that age and you'll go to a memory of being that. So then I'm like, okay, cool, what does that age feel like? You know, five, 12, whatever, or now you know. And then it's like, okay, cool, what is it, you know? Disappointment, frustration, fear, whatever those core things, fear against your basic need safety provision, shelter. Fear against or frustration against our Second need or whatever need, which is our ego, desire to be respected, all that kind of stuff. And and then say, okay, cool, and then not judge it, but to accept it. It's okay to feel that way. Process through it Mm-hmm Kind of for me so far it's been spent some time in that space. It's okay, just kind of read it's okay, reinforcing that yeah like it's okay to feel that way.
Speaker 1:Go to sleep, wake up. It's okay to feel that way. And then what I found myself next is Well, how does this relate to me personally, how does it relate to now and how does it relate to what I really want to give this world, that I feel like I have? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So this morning I was in my head and Drop and guss off at school and I was just like as a visionary, I my mind goes to these details and and I quickly end up in these this is what this could be. Mm-hmm, right, not like pie in the sky, but, like you know me, like, yeah, all of the mechanics associated with it. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So when I really was, when I came to a place to truly articulate the emotion for me personally, is in this concept of in material Mm-hmm, in the physical, like understanding that the physical is. You know, quantum physics suggests there is no, there is no hard matter. Everything is frequency, everything is waves, yeah, everything actually is movement, mm-hmm. So if we look beyond just the material and and for me asking, in the, in the concept of this whole construct, mm-hmm, I have in my mind Created what seems to be Something that could be really special, and it's not just any particular thing, it's the way my brain works, mm-hmm, right. And I think a lot of us, because a lot of us are creative, we see what could be Right, whether that's, we see what our kids could be, we see what our friends.
Speaker 1:We see what we could do, right, that's just kind of how we operate, yeah, but for me personally it was like Well, what I do with that now?
Speaker 2:Where does that go?
Speaker 1:Seeing the potential yeah, so I think for me, what I found and discovered as of this morning Is the negative Pain. Is I feel like I can contribute more value to the world that I'm currently giving?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not enough right and I feel like, when some of these things come up, or even in our podcast, sometimes it's like I Feel like we're being so transparent and honest and just Loosely sharing our Truths, truths and transformation, and it and sometimes and again negative, positive, whatever. Sometimes I'm like wouldn't that benefit more people than the 15 or 20 people that download the podcast? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah and then it, and then it just really falls back to is this giving us value? And if it is, we'll keep doing it, and if it's not, we'll stop. Yeah, because that's all we can control. Yeah, but the letdown for me as I cool as I was able to attack, articulate it this morning was I Feel like I have more to give, that is being received, of the entire construct of the life that I live. Now. Whether that's true or not, it doesn't matter, mm-hmm, because right now I'm just able to articulate why I'm Not let down. But what's the word? Disappointed, disappointed? So now, today, tomorrow, I'll figure out what to do with that. But that's where I'm at yeah.
Speaker 1:So what's funny and what's great about all this is in this introspective. It has nothing to do with anyone or anything externally. This is all me processing, taking, allowing an external material yeah right. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And this makes sense to us. I don't know if it does the listener, because we're, you know, going through this whole material world, spiritual world thing, but, like quantum physics thing, I'm just throwing out some words out there. So if you, if you stick, if any of them are sticky for you in listening to this but it has nothing to do with the material, it has absolutely nothing. What's cool about the process is realizing it's all internal and doing the introspective work is I can make it. I can take any circumstance and apply it to how I want to grow as an individual.
Speaker 2:You taking your power back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, regardless of what's happened externally, whether right you this thing, this project, whether it's the podcast, whether it's a project with somebody, you are not an effect of outside circumstances. In this moment. I'll say you're less of effect. I'm choosing to take in particular external event right and using that event to evoke the emotions, to process the emotions, to Use that as a moment to better understand myself right Instead of completely reactionary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or completely staying in the material. Well, what should I do? What are we gonna do? How? What's the next iteration, what's the next phase? You know what I'm saying? So, and I don't know if that's the right thing to do, I don't really know, but that's what I'm choosing to do right now because obviously there still is the material, there still is the thing, but there's. For me you know, I'm an entrepreneur, I got a lot of ideas there's always gonna be a thing, always, always always, always, always and as I'm Really sinking into this idea of curious and creative, With no boundaries for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2:Then there's even more, then there's even more, than it never ends yeah so that's how I'm I.
Speaker 2:Like it. We were talking about this yesterday, but it's a little bit of. My teacher calls it the analyzer, but it's a little bit of stepping out of the analyzer, so much. Hmm, because the anal, your brain, your brain, right. The analyzer has Baggage. It has the. It's easy to be scripted and programmed, yeah, and you have the amygdala with the fear response yeah, and so it's moving out of that and going more into the intuition based type living, not saying that's easy, yeah, the goal right, at least, at least we got a goal. But yeah, and even understanding that there's, there's a difference, yeah, in this whole thing. Because the brain I'm not I'm not ripping on the brain, yeah, but it has some. It has some things that make it Uh irritating sometimes, like the amygdala, the flight or flight, all this that just makes you sit there and worry and sesame about is it gonna work? What should I do next?
Speaker 2:How is this gonna yada yada, yada and and then when you, when you breathe, you know the right way and you slip out of that into the parasympathetic nerve and then all that melts away. No, and then you start to operate from a more Calm state and you're not completely stuck in the analyzer. Yeah, so that's part of it. Yeah, and it's not something that you just do overnight like, hey, I'm done with the analyzer. So anyway, yeah, stepping into that a little bit, but yeah, what's a good point?
Speaker 1:We were talking yesterday and I learned this from another expert and a very different methodology that I went to this week. It was pretty cool, but she said a phrase and I was just like it just punched me in the face because it was so good. She's like, well, yeah, the subconscious doesn't even see the world. It's inside the brain like, it's inside the like, it's an aware of time. Time doesn't exist to the subconscious, there's no such thing as time, and that's why you can fear a terrorist attack and have the anxiety right now, in the moment.
Speaker 1:Yeah if that terrorist attack is happening, yeah.
Speaker 2:If your neighbor's house got broken into and you imagine someone breaking into your house while you're lying in bed at night, your heart rate goes up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know your brain, You're not really thinks someone is breaking in.
Speaker 2:You're not running, yeah, you're just laying in bed. Yeah how does that, how does a physiologic Corresponds like that happen, which is crazy and your adrenaline spikes. I've done it. We've all sat there and thought about you know, your camping. You think about the, the murderer the murder. I would do the tent 20 times realize what's going on big foot or whatever your thing is that you think about when you?
Speaker 1:know just the serial killer and Definitely white, of course. But, um, yeah, so to your point, the analyzer is attached to that amygdala. Yeah, so then the second you start analyzing all of the then your subconscious doesn't know time or space like that.
Speaker 2:For all it knows it's happening right now. Yeah, so it feels real and then bam fear state. It's pretty amazing. Yeah but also irritating. Well, it's something to understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the first step, like you said, the first step is just even acknowledging it and I feel like for me, as a 41 year old, after 12 month, 13, 14 months of intense work, for the first time, for the first time ever, I Was able to they were, I didn't pick them apart, they were apart and then I was able to, with intuition, with I Don't know what, not the fear state. Yeah, I was able to. The emotions were over here and the ability to choose what program I was going to run to process the emotions.
Speaker 1:I literally it was like three different components were happening in my whole, being the emotions which came from the body, the gut and the chest. Mm-hmm, and then my logical brain was literally said what program do you want to run? Literally said that, mm-hmm, and then I got to pick the program and then I got to apply the program to the emotions and after 41 years of living, breathing in this lifetime and 14 months of and I've on, I'm on session 39 of therapy. I've done a umdr sessions, I've done Psychedelic psycho, psychedelic assisted psychotherapy. I've done breath work. I've done some neurological work. After all that, yeah, I was able to and I didn't try to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it wasn't like I wasn't the goal for the week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't get news and been like, okay, cool, okay, okay, this is how I'm gonna do this. It was literally just like that was that's how it operated. Yeah, which is I even? As it was happening, I was just like, oh Wow, thank you, thank you self. I think this is cool. It was good acknowledgement, too for all the work. Yeah, you know, yeah, because if you do all this and then all of a sudden something happens and you're just in a fear state and you think you're a piece of and you're worthless, it's just like Well, what was that?
Speaker 2:What have I been doing? What am I doing with myself? You know what have I been doing for, you know, 14 months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a lot of money.
Speaker 2:So anyway. So, yeah, that's great bro. Yeah, it's cool. I'm also not not in the way you described it, but intentionally trying to operate less from the analyzer. Yeah, as I call it. Yeah, the brain, because of you know, because you can get stuck in those loops. Yeah, of the fud, I call it fud. The fear, uncertainty and doubt the fud loops so operating less from the, from the brain, and more from Wholeness. Being this Ground, whatever the, whatever the hell, you, whatever your term is, yeah, soul spirit, I don't really care.
Speaker 2:I don't like, I don't like to get bogged down with syntax.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't see the point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're all trying to do the same, right, yeah, so I think by far the majority of human beings don't want to live in a fear state where they feel like they're gonna die. Right, do you?
Speaker 2:want more options. Do you want less options?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you want to feel more freedom or less freedom? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're all trying to do the same thing here. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:Everyone wants love yeah, unconditioned. Everyone wants to feel like they have an option yeah, more options, yeah, and less constraints boom, okay. So, yeah, less trying to get out of the brain as much and get into the.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're trying, if you're stuck on what term to use to get out of the analyzer, you might be operating it within the analyzer.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's a, that's a program, because I mean same thing with you know who is. When people talk about, all paths end up pretty much leading, yeah, to the same place. Like you know, you can see like scientists they become, like they believe in God after 30, 40 years, yeah, and you're like, how does that work?
Speaker 2:Yeah and then people who are Whatever. Maybe they worked in a Hospice, yeah, you know, but you're just doing something intentionally for years and years. You kind of notice that a lot of times people end up Towards a similar conclusion. Yeah, so is there a wrong or right path?
Speaker 1:I mean, considering there's infinite possibilities. How could there only be one path? Yeah, I don't know, so anyway, and how someone arrives at feeling, that's more of a feeling yeah, but yeah. I mean it's tragic. I was watching the show last night and the kid, it's really weird because one of the main characters, his name is Gus and he's non-verbal. I didn't watch it because of that, I just thought that was pretty strange. You know, they say you start seeing more patterns.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you seeing some patterns, seeing some patterns. I tell you what pattern I'm seeing. I see more forerunners on the road now that I own one.
Speaker 1:You know what I'll. You know what pattern. Next episode we're going to talk about manifestation cause. I actually love that subject, yeah, and I love being cheeky about the subject too. So but you know what I want to quote manifest.
Speaker 2:What you manifest in bro.
Speaker 1:Once we get the runners wrapped and we keep developing engaging content on forerunner gunner, all those forerunners are like we get the forerunner gunner wave.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying have you been doing it? Have you been doing it to others?
Speaker 1:No, I guess I gotta start. Good challenge. I just feel like motorcycle culture is cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that they all wave at each other. Yeah, that's cool. They have an understanding, they do. So then the forerunner culture, or forerunner culture, yeah, toyota.
Speaker 1:But then there's Jeep culture and Jeeps wave at each other, but I think the forerunner culture doesn't wave at each other in despite what's the word. And to yeah, whatever that word is Because Jeep culture does that. So I think forerunners don't do it Because they're too cool. They're too cool, but I don't know. I don't know I'm still new to the whole like being snobby in a subculture Because I've always been. I've always blended subcultures in my whole life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the whole Jeep and Toyota thing is pretty funny, yeah, but I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1:I really want to ask this question what's that To me? What is the point of the ducks?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I haven't, I haven't understood that yet.
Speaker 1:Cause it seems kinda and maybe this is me being a snobby Toyota guy it seems kinda cheesy, Cheesy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the nicest word. That's the nicest way you can put it right now on this episode.
Speaker 1:But maybe I just don't understand it.
Speaker 2:I don't know. We should. We should figure out the where it started. How did it start? What is it? What does it represent? What is the?
Speaker 1:point. We'll look that up. Anyway, in conclusion, yeah, this morning I asked myself, I was like I'm starting to see some clarity on what I would like to pursue pretty heavy. Yeah, I'm taking action to do it. You know, in in this life, I think when we talked about purpose it's funny I brought up a point but I didn't conclude the main point. I went back and listened to the episode and I was like man, I went on a rant and I didn't even conclude the rant, so it just sounded like a stupid rant. But we're talking about purpose and I believe that there's no, there's no one thing that you're supposed to do in this world and you better find it or you waste your life. Yeah, of course not.
Speaker 1:I don't believe that, and I brought up the analogy of a girlfriend it's like, or a wife or a significant other. I was like I don't think there's one soulmate in this world. But I was. I failed to tie that back to purpose. So I don't think there's just one soulmate in this world out of eight billion people and you gotta go find that person or you know the rest of your life's gonna be miserable. I don't think there's one thing. I think, to your point, there's options. We can. Once we understand who we are, we can do whatever right.
Speaker 1:As long as we reflect on conditional love and gratitude, yeah this is stepping.
Speaker 2:That is stepping into more of the why you're doing it than the what you're doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You wanna help people? Cool, there's a billion ways. Yeah. You know, find one that you like. There's probably 10, there's probably a thousand ways you like doing it. Yeah. And being creative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you wanna be creative. There's a million ways to do that. Yeah. So I'm starting to see that. But so, as I kinda go through this process, over the past year, when I sold out of the last company, I just started doing stuff, a lot of stuff, cause that's natural for me, yeah. So now, really, the transition that I've, I'll say, been forced to go through but I allowed myself to be forced to go through- you yeah, Is now to your point. Why am I doing all these things?
Speaker 2:Yeah, stepping into the why, and then when you really ask yourself that a lot changed right.
Speaker 1:Everything has changed. Everything, yeah, everything. So what's cool is now seeing that the material world, driven by the material world, going into an a ton of internal work and then coming back to the material world and it may look the same, but my presence and groundedness and my point of view yeah, your viewpoint changed Is absolutely radically different. So as I now look at, okay, cool, what do I wanna do? It's not out of a program of I need to prove my value, I need them to see my value, all that kind of stuff. It's just more like, what do I wanna do? Like, it's just that simple. And then what, within this time period of this world?
Speaker 1:and the tools we have and the resources we have. What's that gonna look like, but anyway, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool, I think that's it.
Speaker 1:That's it. That's all I got. I like it.
Speaker 2:Higher viewpoints and less analyzing and more intuition.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just keep doing the work. For me, it's just keep doing the work, just getting started. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think as much as you can accomplish in life, it's pretty heavily determined on how much you're willing to work on yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know, If the ability to be curious and creative are absolutely endless and has no bounds. Yeah, for me, my motivation is to keep doing the inner work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I can See the possibilities more clearly. Yeah. Yeah. Cause. If there's one thing that FUD the fear, uncertainty in del du is, it narrows your ability to see the possibilities. Yeah. It gives you that tunnel vision.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it makes you feel like you have less options. There's a terrible feeling, yeah, so I'd like to reduce that as much as possible, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's good. So there we go. Same thing else.
